Is main thread same as parent thread? - python

I read singnal docs of python. It said singale handler must be registered in main thread.
If I start a thread (grand father) which start a child thread (father) which start another thread (grandson)
Does the father thread a main thread compared to grandson?

No. There is only one main thread. It is the thread which is running at program startup.
You can check which thread your code is running on with threading.current_thread() == threading.main_thread().
The signal.signal() documentation states:
When threads are enabled, this function can only be called from the main thread of the main interpreter; attempting to call it from other threads will cause a ValueError exception to be raised.
So, the best way to use this function would be to set up your signal handler before starting any threads.
Note that the documentation also says:
Python signal handlers are always executed in the main Python thread of the main interpreter, even if the signal was received in another thread. This means that signals can’t be used as a means of inter-thread communication.

If i understand the question correctly;
No, the grandson is not tracked by the mainthread inheritly. Although there are different ways you can start threads, one that is dependent on that the child thread is finished and closed before closing the parent or the parent continues in parallell.
But stating in the general case, the father is "owned" by the main thread while the child is "owned" by the father.

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How to keep the daemon threads alive after main thread exits?

I'm working on a python application, in which the main thread creates an object, say x, of a particular class.
Then it starts one thread which starts the execution in one of the methods of this object x. The method has a while True: loop, so its infinite.
Then it starts another thread which starts the execution in another method of the same object x. This method also has a while True: infinite loop.
I have made both the threads as daemon by calling t1.setDaemon(True), but it seems both stop execution once the main thread exits.
How do I keep the children alive after the parent thread is finished?
Or should I change my design to use a cron job or process fork?
The documentation says
A thread can be flagged as a "daemon thread". The significance of this flag is that the entire Python program exits when only daemon threads are left. The initial value is inherited from the creating thread. The flag can be set through the daemon property.
If you want to keep your program running, you must have at least one non daemon thread.

Trying to stop a QThread gracefully, what's wrong with this implementation?

When running my code I start a thread that runs for around 50 seconds and does a lot of background stuff. If I run this program and then close it soon after, the stuff still goes on in the background for a while because the thread never dies. How can I kill the thread gracefully in my closeEvent method in my MianWindow class? I've tried setting up a method called exit(), creating a signal 'quitOperation' in the thread in question, and then tried to use
myThread.quitOperation.emit()
I expected that this would call my exit() function in my thread because I have this line in my constructor:
self.quitOperation.connect(self.exit)
However, when I use the first line it breaks, saying that 'myThread' has no attribute 'quitOperation'. Why is this? Is there a better way?
I'm not sure for python, but I assume this myThread.quitOperation.emit() emits a signal for the thread to exit. The point is that while your worker is using the thread and does not return, nor runs QCoreApplication::processEvents(), myThread will never have the chance to actually process your request (this is called thread starvation).
Correct answer may depend on the situation, and the nature of the "stuff" your thread is doing. The most common practice is that the main thread sends a signal to the worker thread where a slot sets a flag. In the blocking process you regularly check this flag. It it is set you stop whatever "stuff" you are doing, tell your worker thread that it can quit (with a signal preferably with queued connection), call a deleteLater() on the worker object itself, and return from any functions you are currently in, so that the thread's event handler can run, and clear your worker object and itself up, the finally quit.
In case your "stuff" is a huge cycle of very fast operation like simple mathematics or directory navigation one-by-one that takes only a few milliseconds each, this will be enough.
In case your "stuff" contain huge blocking parts that you have no control of (an thus you can't place this flag checking call in it), you may need to wait in the main thread until the worker thread quits.
In case you use direct connect to set the flag, or you set it directly, be sure to protect the read/write access of the flag with a QMutex to prevent inconsistent reads, or user a queued connection to ensure single thread access of the flag.
While highly discouraged, optionally you can use QThread's terminate() method to instantaneously kill the thread. You should never do this as it may cause memory leak, heap corruption, resource leaking and any nasty stuff as destructors and clean-up codes will not run, and the execution can be halted at an undesired state.

Triggering an exception in a main thread from a daemon thread in Python

How do you trigger an exception in a main thread, running blocking code, from a daemon thread in Python?
I have a daemon thread that periodically checks a database for a record indicating that its current process should terminate (i.e. the user has pressed the "cancel" button). In my main non-daemon thread, I'm running a blocking call to an external process that I can't easily modify to gracefully terminate. However, the main thread can gracefully handle a normal KeyboardInterrupt when I manually trigger one.
So if my daemon thread receives the terminate command, how do I raise an exception in my main thread to terminate my process?
After digging through the thread docs, I finally found the solution to be interrupt_main().
You can get your subprocess returncode with the returncode attribute. Raise something if it's different from zero.
Edit: I've mixed up the subprocess and multiprocessing modules. There is however an exitcode attribute in the multiprocessing module that seems similar to the subprocess returncode attribute.
It's typically done using a message queue.
See Catch a thread's exception in the caller thread in Python
However it will not preempt your main thread, you will have to actively poll for it. Maybe with signals you'll be able to get what you need.

Do a callback from subclassed thread in main thread

I have a class that inherits from threading.Thread.
After processing an item from a queue I want it to call a function that I handed over to the thread when starting it. Doing that callback from the run-Method will have it run in my worker thread. Is there a way to run that callback inside the MainThread?
Thanks & Greetings,
Sean
You didnt mention intially that you are using pyqt. Qt has signals and slots built in just for this purpose. If you are launching your thread using QThread then it has the 'finished' signal that your main thread can be connected to on a slot. If you need even more control of the resulting signal you can emit a custom one from the thread with any value you want. When you construct the thread just connect its signal to the slot that you want to act as the callback.
Otherwise you would be blocking your main event loop if you are specifically waiting on the thread.
Here is a link specifically about the new style signal/slots: http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/static/Docs/PyQt4/html/new_style_signals_slots.html
It makes it extremely easy now to create a python signal with whatever signature you want and connect it in an object oriented fashion to a slot.
Also as a side note about PyQt... Some of the other answers here have suggested creating a loop on your main thread that waits to collect responses in a queue from its dispatched threads. That is essentially what PyQt does. When you start your app the main thread goes into an event loop. This event loop is processing events that stack up in its event queue. There are different types of signal/slot connections. If your two endpoints are in the same thread, then a direct connection will be made and the emitting signal will call the slot. If they are in different threads, then I believe it goes through the event loop so that it can be processed outside of the emitters thread.
Push the method onto a queue and have the main thread sit and wait on that queue, running each method as it pulls them off.
You can use condition variables and have your main thread wait on a message from the sub-thread. The sub-thread can signal the main thread to call that method.

What are the Python thread + Unix signals semantics?

What are the rules surrounding Python threads and how Unix signals are handled?
Is KeyboardInterrupt, which is triggered by SIGINT but handled internally by the Python runtime, handled differently?
First, when setting up signal handlers using the signal module, you must create them in the main thread. You will receive an exception if you try to create them in a separate thread.
Signal handlers registered via the signal.signal() function will always be called in the main thread. On architectures which support sending signals to threads, at the C level I believe the Python runtime ignores all signals on threads and has a signal handler on the main thread, which it uses to dispatch to your Python-code signal handler.
The documentation for the thread module states that the KeyboardInterrupt exception (which is ordinarily triggered by SIGINT) can be delivered to an arbitrary thread unless you have the signal module available to you, which all Unix systems should have. In that case, it's delivered to the main thread. If you're on a system without signal, you'll have to catch KeyboardInterrupt in your thread and call thread.interrupt_main() to re-raise it in the main thread.
More information can be found in the Python docs for the thread and signal modules.
From the signal documentation:
Some care must be taken if both signals and threads are used in the same program. The fundamental thing to remember in using signals and threads simultaneously is: always perform signal() operations in the main thread of execution. Any thread can perform an alarm(), getsignal(), pause(), setitimer() or getitimer(); only the main thread can set a new signal handler, and the main thread will be the only one to receive signals (this is enforced by the Python signal module, even if the underlying thread implementation supports sending signals to individual threads). This means that signals can’t be used as a means of inter-thread communication. Use locks instead.

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