I am making a simple game for the terminal (because I don't want to install a gui on my arch machine). I want to detect Keypresses and change a variable accordingly so that when the main process loops again it can see the changed variable. I've searched Google for an hour trying to figure this out and everything either stopped the program waiting for a Keypress or it needed an xserver display (pynput). How would I detect for a Keypress in the background? I really don't want to install big 'ol libraries like pygame for this...
What you are looking for is called an event loop. This loop is running your program constantly while allowing callbacks to direct flow inside your program. In Python3 there is a new module in the standard library that is specifically directed at this, called asyncio.
The event loop is the central execution device provided by asyncio. It provides multiple facilities, including:
Registering, executing and cancelling delayed calls (timeouts).
Creating client and server transports for various kinds of communication.
Launching subprocesses and the associated transports for communication with an external program.
Delegating costly function calls to a pool of threads.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-eventloop.html
Writing Python programs synchronously (read: with threads) is possible but usually not what you need and adds more complexity than you should care about. In most cases async flow via callsbacks is less complex and prevents you from running into problems like deadlocks, race conditions or other problems connected to threading.
I am creating a program in Python that listens to varios user interactions and logs them. I have these requirements/restrictions:
I need a separate process that sends those logs to a remote database every hour
I can't do it in the current process because it blocks the UI.
If the main process stops, the background process should also stop.
I've been reading about subprocess but I can't seem to find anything on how to stop both simultaneously. I need the equivalent of spawn_link if anybody know some Erlang/Elixir.
Thanks!
To answer the question in the title (for visitors from google): there are robust solutions on Linux, Windows using OS-specific APIs and less robust but more portable psutil-based solutions.
To fix your specific problem (it is XY problem): use a daemon thread instead of a process.
A thread would allow to perform I/O without blocking GUI, code example (even if GUI you've chosen doesn't provide async. I/O API such as tkinter's createfilehandler() or gtk's io_add_watch()).
I would like to have my Python program run in the background as a daemon, on either Windows or Unix. I see that the python-daemon package is for Unix only; is there an alternative for cross platform? If possible, I would like to keep the code as simple as I can.
In Windows it's called a "service" and you could implement it pretty easily e.g. with the win32serviceutil module, part of pywin32. Unfortunately the two "mental models" -- service vs daemon -- are very different in detail, even though they serve similar purposes, and I know of no Python facade that tries to unify them into a single framework.
This question is 6 years old, but I had the same problem, and the existing answers weren't cross-platform enough for my use case. Though Windows services are often used in similar ways as Unix daemons, at the end of the day they differ substantially, and "the devil's in the details". Long story short, I set out to try and find something that allows me to run the exact same application code on both Unix and Windows, while fulfilling the expectations for a well-behaved Unix daemon (which is better explained elsewhere) as best as possible on both platforms:
Close open file descriptors (typically all of them, but some applications may need to protect some descriptors from closure)
Change the working directory for the process to a suitable location to prevent "Directory Busy" errors
Change the file access creation mask (os.umask in the Python world)
Move the application into the background and make it dissociate itself from the initiating process
Completely divorce from the terminal, including redirecting STDIN, STDOUT, and STDERR to different streams (often DEVNULL), and prevent reacquisition of a controlling terminal
Handle signals, in particular, SIGTERM.
The fundamental problem with cross-platform daemonization is that Windows, as an operating system, really doesn't support the notion of a daemon: applications that start from a terminal (or in any other interactive context, including launching from Explorer, etc) will continue to run with a visible window, unless the controlling application (in this example, Python) has included a windowless GUI. Furthermore, Windows signal handling is woefully inadequate, and attempts to send signals to an independent Python process (as opposed to a subprocess, which would not survive terminal closure) will almost always result in the immediate exit of that Python process without any cleanup (no finally:, no atexit, no __del__, etc).
Windows services (though a viable alternative in many cases) were basically out of the question for me: they aren't cross-platform, and they're going to require code modification. pythonw.exe (a windowless version of Python that ships with all recent Windows Python binaries) is closer, but it still doesn't quite make the cut: in particular, it fails to improve the situation for signal handling, and you still cannot easily launch a pythonw.exe application from the terminal and interact with it during startup (for example, to deliver dynamic startup arguments to your script, say, perhaps, a password, file path, etc), before "daemonizing".
In the end, I settled on using subprocess.Popen with the creationflags=subprocess.CREATE_NEW_PROCESS_GROUP keyword to create an independent, windowless process:
import subprocess
independent_process = subprocess.Popen(
'/path/to/pythonw.exe /path/to/file.py',
creationflags=subprocess.CREATE_NEW_PROCESS_GROUP
)
However, that still left me with the added challenge of startup communications and signal handling. Without going into a ton of detail, for the former, my strategy was:
pickle the important parts of the launching process' namespace
Store that in a tempfile
Add the path to that file in the daughter process' environment before launching
Extract and return the namespace from the "daemonization" function
For signal handling I had to get a bit more creative. Within the "daemonized" process:
Ignore signals in the daemon process, since, as mentioned, they all terminate the process immediately and without cleanup
Create a new thread to manage signal handling
That thread launches daughter signal-handling processes and waits for them to complete
External applications send signals to the daughter signal-handling process, causing it to terminate and complete
Those processes then use the signal number as their return code
The signal handling thread reads the return code, and then calls either a user-defined signal handler, or uses a cytpes API to raise an appropriate exception within the Python main thread
Rinse and repeat for new signals
That all being said, for anyone encountering this problem in the future, I've rolled a library called daemoniker that wraps both proper Unix daemonization and the above Windows strategy into a unified facade. The cross-platform API looks like this:
from daemoniker import Daemonizer
with Daemonizer() as (is_setup, daemonizer):
if is_setup:
# This code is run before daemonization.
do_things_here()
# We need to explicitly pass resources to the daemon; other variables
# may not be correct
is_parent, my_arg1, my_arg2 = daemonizer(
path_to_pid_file,
my_arg1,
my_arg2
)
if is_parent:
# Run code in the parent after daemonization
parent_only_code()
# We are now daemonized, and the parent just exited.
code_continues_here()
Two options come to mind:
Port your program into a windows service. You can probably share much of your code between the two implementations.
Does your program really use any daemon functionality? If not, you rewrite it as a simple server that runs in the background, manages communications through sockets, and perform its tasks. It will probably consume more system resources than a daemon would, but it would be quote platform independent.
In general the concept of a daemon is Unix specific, in particular expected behaviour with respect to file creation masks, process hierarchy, and signal handling.
You may find PEP 3143 useful wherein a proposed continuation of python-daemon is considered for Python 3.2, and many related daemonizing modules and implementations are discussed.
The reason it's unix only is that daemons are a Unix specific concept i.e a background process initiated by the os and usually running as a child of the root PID .
Windows has no direct equivalent of a unix daemon, the closest I can think of is a Windows Service.
There's a program called pythonservice.exe for windows . Not sure if it's supported on all versions of python though
I am in a situation that I need to tear apart an GUI application (written with wx and twisted, running on MS Windows), take out the core logic and deploy it as a cron job on a linux server that has no GUI environment.
I have replaced a number of wx.CallLater and wx.CallAfter with threading.timer. Apparently it does not work. The original code does not play well in the mulit-thread environment. It is probably because some underlying libraries are not thread safe. Threading also probably does not schedule jobs in the same manner as twisted.
So it is the typical workflow of the GUI app:
User toggles a button to start up a real-time data reader (written in C)
After toggle button turns green, it means the reader is up and running. User proceeds to switch between different real time data type
When the new set of data becomes ready, user will start using other functions in the app.
My questions:
How can I use twisted to recreate the above workflow? What tools in twisted allow me to wait for readiness of real-time data reader as mentioned in step 2?
Will everything just 'happen' in the main thread?
How can I use twisted to recreate the above workflow? What tools in twisted allow me to wait for readiness of real-time data reader as mentioned in step 2?
reactor.callLater - http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/current/core/howto/time.html
Will everything just 'happen' in the main thread?
Yes - http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/current/core/howto/reactor-basics.html
I need to run a server side script like Python "forever" (or as long as possible without loosing state), so they can keep sockets open and asynchronously react to events like data received. For example if I use Twisted for socket communication.
How would I manage something like this?
Am I confused? or are there are better ways to implement asynchronous socket communication?
After starting the script once via Apache server, how do I stop it running?
If you are using twisted then it has a whole infrastructure for starting and stopping daemons.
http://twistedmatrix.com/projects/core/documentation/howto/application.html
How would I manage something like this?
Twisted works well for this, read the link above
Am I confused? or are there are better ways to implement asynchronous socket communication?
Twisted is very good at asynchronous socket communications. It is hard on the brain until you get the hang of it though!
After starting the script once via Apache server, how do I stop it running?
The twisted tools assume command line access, so you'd have to write a cgi wrapper for starting / stopping them if I understand what you want to do.
You can just write an script that is continuously in a while block waiting for the connection to happen and waits for a signal to close it.
http://docs.python.org/library/signal.html
Then to stop it you just need to run another script that sends that signal to him.
You can use a ‘double fork’ to run your code in a new background process unbound to the old one. See eg this recipe with more explanatory comments than you could possibly want.
I wouldn't recommend this as a primary way of running background tasks for a web site. If your Python is embedded in an Apache process, for example, you'll be forking more than you want. Better to invoke the daemon separately (just under a similar low-privilege user).
After starting the script once via Apache server, how do I stop it running?
You have your second fork write the process number (pid) of the daemon process to a file, and then read the pid from that file and send it a terminate signal (os.kill(pid, signal.SIG_TERM)).
Am I confused?
That's the question! I'm assuming you are trying to have a background process that responds on a different port to the web interface for some sort of unusual net service. If you merely talking about responding to normal web requests you shoudn't be doing this, you should rely on Apache to handle your sockets and service one request at a time.
I think Comet is what you're looking for. Make sure to take a look at Tornado too.
You may want to look at FastCGI, it sounds exactly like what you are looking for, but I'm not sure if it's under current development. It uses a CGI daemon and a special apache module to communicate with it. Since the daemon is long running, you don't have the fork/exec cost. But as a cost of managing your own resources (no automagic cleanup on every request)
One reason why this style of FastCGI isn't used much anymore is there are ways to embed interpreters into the Apache binary and have them run in server. I'm not familiar with mod_python, but i know mod_perl has configuration to allow long running processes. Be careful here, since a long running process in the server can cause resource leaks.
A general question is: what do you want to do? Why do you need this second process, but yet somehow controlled by apache? Why can'ty ou just build a daemon that talks to apache, why does it have to be controlled by apache?