I'm currently writing some Windows GUI applications in Python 2.7 using pyQT4 and pyInstaller. These compiled executables are taking about 3-6 seconds to open. I've eliminated UPX already and seen some time shaved off the load, and some more by not packaging it as a single exe but I'd rather have a single distributable file.
I was wondering if IronPython would be a better at providing a quick loading application. Or any of the other version of Python, or better yet if there is anything else i can do to minimize the wait for the GUI to be drawn on the screen.
IronPython does add a performance hit to a number of specific areas compared to Python. However, I would not draw the conclusion that it is always slower. There has been a post already on that topic Why is IronPython faster than the Official Python Interpreter
The most important aspect to consider is have you fully optimized everything in your Python project? As in, have you performed any code profiling?
If the answer is yes then you could attempt to migrate to a different toolkit or language. If you chose IronPython (link) it would be wise to migrate your GUI to .NET (winforms, XAML, etc). Another option (albeit unpopular to most) would be to use tkinter. Tkinter is very powerful in that one can fully-customize the code to be nothing more and nothing less than the project requires. Of course that will add considerable typing time. But I have made Python apps that load and draw a window almost immediately and quite honestly almost looked like it came out of VS2012.
Is it possible to deploy python applications such that you don't release the source code and you don't have to be sure the customer has python installed?
I'm thinking maybe there is some installation process that can run a python app from just the .pyc files and a shared library containing the interpreter or something like that?
Basically I'm keen to get the development benefits of a language like Python - high productivity etc. but can't quite see how you could deploy it professionally to a customer where you don't know how there machine is set up and you definitely can't deliver the source.
How do professional software houses developing in python do it (or maybe the answer is that they don't) ?
You protect your source code legally, not technologically. Distributing py files really isn't a big deal. The only technological solution here is not to ship your program (which is really becoming more popular these days, as software is provided over the internet rather than fully installed locally more often.)
If you don't want the user to have to have Python installed but want to run Python programs, you'll have to bundle Python. Your resistance to doing so seems quite odd to me. Java programs have to either bundle or anticipate the JVM's presence. C programs have to either bundle or anticipate libc's presence (usually the latter), etc. There's nothing hacky about using what you need.
Professional Python desktop software bundles Python, either through something like py2exe/cx_Freeze/some in-house thing that does the same thing or through embedding Python (in which case Python comes along as a library rather than an executable). The former approach is usually a lot more powerful and robust.
Yes, it is possible to make installation packages. Look for py2exe, cx_freeze and others.
No, it is not possible to keep the source code completely safe. There are always ways to decompile.
Original source code can trivially be obtained from .pyc files if someone wants to do it. Code obfuscation would make it more difficult to do something with the code.
I am surprised no one mentioned this before now, but Cython seems like a viable solution to this problem. It will take your Python code and transpile it into CPython compatible C code. You also get a small speed boost (~25% last I checked) since it will be compiled to native machine code instead of just Python byte code. You still need to be sure the user has Python installed (either by making it a pre-requisite pushed off onto the user to deal with, or bundling it as part of the installer process). Also, you do need to have at least one small part of your application in pure Python: the hook into the main function.
So you would need something basic like this:
import cython_compiled_module
if __name__ == '__main__':
cython_compiled_module.main()
But this effectively leaks no implementation details. I think using Cython should meet the criteria in the question, but it also introduces the added complexity of compiling in C, which loses some of Python's easy cross-platform nature. Whether that is worth it or not is up to you.
As others stated, even the resulting compiled C code could be decompiled with a little effort, but it is likely much more close to the type of obfuscation you were initially hoping for.
Well, it depends what you want to do. If by "not releasing the source code" you mean "the customer should not be able to access the source code in any way", well, you're fighting a losing battle. Even programs written in C can be reverse engineered, after all. If you're afraid someone will steal from you, make them sign a contract and sue them if there's trouble.
But if you mean "the customer should not care about python files, and not be able to casually access them", you can use a solution like cx_Freeze to turn your Python application into an executable.
Build a web application in python. Then the world can use it via a browser with zero install.
I've looked at some projects like py2exe and a couple other ones. But I want really small under 1mb would be cool but under 300kb would be ideal. Are there any project to possibly extern python into a C compiler or even convert python to C?
Maybe there is just a really small python interpreter that I could add only the required libraries to? ( I tried one, it didn't really seem to be "python")
I've looked at a lot of options but I haven't tried them out properly... What can you recommend?
I am willing to put the effort into a more complex process if the payoff(small size) is worth it, but I need to narrow down the list.
The Shedskin solution in Is it feasible to compile Python to machine code? is what you look for however it is not compile an arbitrary python code. And it is not compile to C but to C++.
I mean the closest you will get with python is py2exe and UPX Create the exe but don't bundle anything to it instead make a library then use upx and do the best compression. It has little overhead and can trim another few mb off your final product. Its not the best way but its one of them.
The other option would be to write a snub launcher in C or C++ to fire up a python interpreter and run your source code. While this would be much smaller it would probably be far more complicated to make, if you are looking to follow this method then this link will help you with that.
If I write a python script, anyone can simply point an editor to it and read it. But for programming written in C, one would have to use decompilers and hex tables and such. Why is that? I mean I simply can't open up the Safari web browser and look at its code.
Note: The author disavows a deep expertise in this subject. Some assertions may be incorrect.
Python actually is compiled into bytecode, which is what gets run by the python interpreter. Whenever you use a Python module, Python will generate a .pyc file with a name corresponding to the module. This is the equivalent of the .o file that's generated when you compile a C file.
So if you want something to disassemble, the .pyc file would be it :)
The process that Python goes through when compiling a module is pretty similar to what gcc or another C compiler does with C source code. The major difference is that it happens transparently as part of execution of the file. It's also optional: when running a non-module, i.e. an end-user script, Python will just interpret the code rather than compiling it first.
So really your question is "Why are python programs distributed as source rather than as compiled modules?" Or, put another way, "Why are C applications distributed as compiled binaries rather than as source code?"
It used to be very common for C applications to be distributed as source code. This was back before operating systems and their various subentities (i.e. linux distributions) became more established. Some distros, for example gentoo, still distribute apps as source code. Apps which are a bit more cutting edge or obscure are still distributed as source code for all platforms they target.
The reason for this is compatibility, and dependencies. The reason you can run the precompiled binary Safari on a Mac, or Firefox on Ubuntu Linux, is because it's been specifically built for that operating system, architecture (e.g. x86_64), and set of libraries.
Unfortunately, compilation of a large app is pretty slow, and needs to be redone at least partially every time the app is updated. Thus the motivation for binary distributions.
So why not create a binary distribution of Python? For one thing, as Aaron mentions, modules would need to be recompiled for each new version of the Python bytecode. But this would be similar to rebuilding a C app to link with a newer version of a dynamic library — Python modules are analogous in this sense to C libraries.
The real reason is that Python compilation is very much quicker than C compilation. This is in part, I think, because of the dynamic nature of the language, and also because it's not as thorough of a compilation. This has its tradeoffs: in particular, Python apps run much more slowly than do their C counterparts, because Python has to interpret the compiled bytecode into instructions for the processor, whereas the C app already contains such instructions.
That all being said, there is a program called py2exe that will take a Python module and distribution and build a precompiled windows executable, including in it the logic of the module and its dependencies, including Python itself. I guess the point of this is to avoid having to coerce people into installing Python on their Windows system just to run your app. Under linux, or I think even OS/X, Python is usually already installed, so precompilation is not really necessary. Linux systems also have super-dandy package managers that will transparently install dependencies such as Python if they are not already installed.
Python is a script language, runs in a virtual machine through an interpeter.
C is a compiled language, the code compiled to binary code which the computer can run without all that extra stuff Python needs.
This is sorta a big topic. You should look into your local friendly Computer Science curriculum, you'll find a lot of great stuff on this subject there.
The short answer is the Python is an "interpreted" language, which means that it requires a machine language program (the python interpreter) to run the python program, adding a layer of indirection. C or C++ are different. They are compiled directly to machine code, which runs directly on your processor.
There is a lot of additional voodoo to be learned here, however. Technically Python is compiled to a bytecode, and modern interpreters do more and more "Just in Time" compilation, so the boundaries between compiled and interpreted code are getting fuzzier all the time.
In several comments you asked: "Is it then possible to compile python to an executable binary file and then simply distribute that?"
From a theoretical viewpoint, there's no question the answer is yes -- a Python program could be compiled to, and distributed as, fully compiled machine code.
From a practical viewpoint, it's open to a lot more question. There are a few things like Unladen Swallow, Psyco, Shed Skin, and PyPy that you might want to know about though.
Unladen Swallow is primarily an attempt at making Python run faster, but part of the plan to do so involves using LLVM for its back-end. LLVM can (among other things) produce native machine code output. The last couple of releases of Unladen Swallow have used LLVM for native code generation, but 1) the most recent update on the web site is from late 2009, and 2) the release notes for that version say: "The Unladen Swallow team does not recommend wide adoption of the 2009Q3 release."
Psyco works as a plug-in for Python that basically does JIT compilation, so even though it can speed up execution (quite a lot in some cases), it doesn't produce a machine-code executable you can distribute. In short, while it's sort of similar to what you want, it's not intended to do exactly what you've asked for.
Shed Skin Python-to-C++ produces C++ as its output, and you then compile the C++ and (potentially) distribute the result of that. Shedskin is currently at version 0.5 -- i.e., nobody's claiming that it's a finished, released product. On the other hand, development is ongoing, and each release does seem to include pretty substantial improvements.
PyPy is a Python implementation written in Python. Their intent is to allow code production to be "plugged in" without affecting the rest of the implementation -- but while they currently support 4 different code generation models, I don't believe any of them results in producing native machine code that runs directly on the hardware.
Bottom line: work has been done and is being done with the intent of doing what you asked about, but at least to my knowledge there's not really anything I could reasonably recommend as a finished product that you can really depend on to do the job right now. The primary emphasis is really on execution speed, not producing standalone executables.
Yes, you can - it's called disassembling, and allows you to look at the code of Safari perfectly well. The thing is, C, among other languages, compiles to native code, i.e. code that your CPU can "understand" and execute.
More or less obviously, the level of abstraction present in the instruction set of your CPU is much smaller than that of a high level language like Python. The CPU instructions are not concerned with "downloading that URI", but more "check if that bit is set in a hardware register".
So, in conclusion, the level of complexity present in a native application is much higher when looking at the machine code, so many people simply can't make any sense of what is going on there, it's hard to get the big picture. With experience and time at your hands, it is possible though - people do it all the time, reversing applications and all.
you can't open up and read the code that actually runs for python either. Try
import dis
def foo():
for i in range(100):
print i
print dis.dis(foo)
That will show you the (human readable) bytcode of the foo program. equivalently, you can save the file and import it from the interactive python interpreter. This will create a .pyc file with the same basename as the script. open that with a hex editor and you are looking at the actually python bytecode.
The reason for the difference is that python changes up it's byte code between releases so that you would either need to distribute a different version of a binary only release for each version of python. This would be a pain.
With C, it's compiled to native code and so the byte code is much more stable making binary only releases possible.
because C code is complied to object (machine) code and python code is compiled into an intermediate byte code. I am not sure if you are even referring to the byte code of python - you must be referring to the source file itself which is directly executable (hiding the byte code from you!). C needs to be compiled and linked.
Python scripts are parsed and converted to binary only when they're run - i.e., they're text files and you can read them with an editor.
C code is compiled and linked to an executable binary file before they can be run. Normally, only this executable binary file is distributed - hence you need a decompiler. You can always view the source code, if you've access to it.
Not all C programs require decompilers. There's lots of C code distributed in source form. And some Python programs do require decompilers, if distributed as bytecode (.pyc files).
But, to the extent that your assumptions are valid, it's because C is a compiled language while Python is an interpreted language.
Python scripts are analogous to a man looking at a to-do list written in English (or language he understands). The man has to do all the work, every time that list of things has to be done.
If the man, instead of doing the steps on his own each time, creates and programs a robot which can carry out those steps again and again (and probably faster than him), that robot is analogous to the C program.
The man in the python case is called the "interpreter" and in the C case is called the "compiler", and the C robot is called the compiled program/executable.
When you look at the python program source, you see the to-do list. In case of the robot, you see the gears, motors and batteries, etc, which look very different from the to-do list. If you could get hold of the C "to-do" list, it looks somewhat like the python code, just in a different language.
G-WAN executes ANSI C scripts on the fly -making it just like Python scripts.
This can be server-side scripts (using G-WAN as a Web server) or any general-purpose C program and you can link any existing library.
Oh, and G-WAN C scripts are much faster than Python, PHP or Java...
How do I let my friends use my Python programs? They don't have python installed, but they can use command line programs. I don't have the skill to write GUI.
Let, say I am writing some calculus calculator, with a lot of custom modules and files. How do I share it?
You could use something like py2exe to convert your Python program into an executable.
another alternative you can try is Portable python.
You have the options presented thus far: Portable Python and Py2Exe. Either can be pretty good.
My suggestion: encourage your friends to install Python! As you know, it's free, and simple to install and download. If they want your application bad enough, installing Python will be a no-brainer.
In 2019 I have been using PyInstaller mostly, works very well for all of my Python scripts I wish to convert to a single runnable exe.
A less general, but lightweight and simple way of putting many Python files into 1 or 2 files (Python programs) is Fredrik Lundh's squeeze program. When you "squeeze" a bunch of Python programs and modules, you can often produce a single Python program. People still need Python to run it (but it's included in most Unix distributions, including Mac OS X), but you can easily distribute it, as your program and modules are all bunched up in a single file.
http://hackerboss.com/how-to-distribute-commercial-python-applications/ mentions using preinstalled, bundled, and frozen interpreters, but i suggest for speed and security, to compile using Shed Skin, Iron Python, Cython, or PyPy. The psyco module also helps with speed if your code is old.