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I have a little experience developing small command-line applications with Python. I want to move on to developing GUIs with Python. From the available GUI toolkits for Python, the ones I feel the most inclined to are wxPython and Tkinter; but I don't want to code all of the GUI by myself all of the time.
Are there any good GUI IDEs for any of these toolkits? It doesn't need to be free or open source.

I will talk only about WxPython because it's the only toolkit I have experience with. TkInter is nice to write small programs (then it doesn't require a GUI Designer), but is not really appropriate for large application development.
wxFormBuilder is really good: it generates .XRC files you need to load in your program, and it can generate .py files by subclassing them when you use.
DialogBlocks and wxDesigner are two commercial software which can generate Python code directly. I didn't tested these much because of their price.
wxGlade is (I think) not yet mature enough for large programs, but it's worth a try.
After trying all these, I realized they had all flaws and that nothing is better than just writing the GUI in an editor. The problem is the extended learning curve. But then you will be much more faster and your code will be much more flexible than when using a GUI designer.
Have a look at this list of major applications written with wxPython. You will probably see that none of these use a GUI Designer, there must be a reason for this.
You then understand gs is right when saying that either you switch to PyQt or you write your application by hand. I had a look at Qt Designer in the past and thought this was what I needed. Unfortunately PyQt has some license restrictions.

This may not answer your question directly, but I chose PyQt because there were no good UI designers for wxPython.
Apparently you either write your GUIs by hand or switch to PyQt.
Because Nokia and Riverbankcomputing couldn't agree on a LGPL solution, Nokia decided to build its own bindings: PySide.

Boa Constructor has a WxPython GUI builder.

I use xrced (comes with wxPython). The GUI is defined in xml files, you have an autogenerated python file that automates some initialization then you subclass those autogenerated classes and do the rest of the initialization by hand. I find that this is a good way to blend the elegance of hand-written GUI code with ease of GUI code generation.
For the code I use WingIDE, it's helpfull to have a good debuger and good source code completion when dealing with large libraries (or frameworks if you will) like wxPython.
If you want more automation (and so, uglier code) try the latest version of Boa, there are some nice introductory screencasts for it at ShowMeDo.com

I use Eclipse with PyDev as my Python IDE (Which is probably not the best solution out there, but it is quite decent)
For GUI developement, I have used wxGlade for a mid-sized project and found it to be quite easy to use one you've grasped the concepts of WxPython. The XML generation is very useful for separating actual GUI design from program logic.
All of the these are free.

Try VisualWx. I think the GUI designer is very good; however the IDE is fairly rudimentary (no code completion, debugging, etc.). My work pattern is to have VisualWx and a good editor like Komodo Edit/Netbeans/etc. open at the same time and switch between them as needed.

I've used wxGlade for a few mission-critical apps. If you're a little weak in wx, it can be rough, but once you get used to it, its a great tool.

Not really a GUI IDE but it leds you define Tkinter GUIs in a JSON file: https://github.com/tmetsch/pytkgen

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wxPython GUI - can it be compared to Java GUI or Visual Studio GUI?

I have a two years of experience in programming of enterprise application's with Java and Visual Studio, and I'm new in Python and wxPython. So my question is: Can wxPython provide me enough rich GUI to create those same app's? My reason if using Python is in it's diversity, simplicity and fast development of app's. Thank you!
I think it depends on your definition of "rich." I use it and like to think it can make some fairly useful GUIs. Here's a screenshot of a wxPython app to work with sensor data I'm writing right now - not the most elaborate or complicated in the world, but so far it seems fairly intuitive for users:
I find the wxPython docs to be a little sparse at times, but as long as you've got the demo installed and the wxWidgets docs open it's a good toolkit to use.
wxGlade will give you the GUI skeleton. You will still need a separate text editor (I recommend Geany) to fill in the handlers.
I would certainly suggest using Python and its GUI libraries, but only you can really make the decision as to wether you think its better than visual studio or Java. The syntax of Python is very basic and I think many people can agree its a plesure to use when you get your head around it (no curly brackets etc). Python Tkinter is quite a simple GUI library and its ideal for making a basic application. WxPython on the other hand is far more advanced than Tkinter hence a richer user experience. The only problem I have had while using Wx is not being able to find suitable examples on the web to demonstarte how some things are done. Good luck, hope you find what your looking for. Karl
The wxPython demo shows most of the widgets that are available. I suggest that you take a look at this and see whether it will do what you need.

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I am a beginner programmer and have learned most of what I know thus far from using delphi for the past couple of months. A month or so back I decided to give python a try as I was told it may be easier to learn and I really like the language. I guess I just seem to pick things up easier using it.
The only problem is that I can't seem to find a good IDE for it that works in the way that Delphi does. I want to create desktop apps with nice GUIs so it would be nice to have something similar to Delphi/Visual studio to work with.
I have searched around and could find anything. Was wondering if anyone could lend a hand.
Also, from what I have gathered Ironpython seems to be the same as python coding wise. I don't mind my apps only being able to work on windows. Is Python Tools a good option. I mean is it basically like using visual studio but with python code instead?
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks.
Boa Constructor is a classic RAD IDE for GUI applications (wxpython, both linux and windows). People is still using it but seems that development stopped some years ago. PythonCard is another RAD IDE I used in the past but also unmaintained right now
Although they are not IDEs, some tools are very helpful for GUI design like:
- wxglade (wxpython, included as a pluging in Stani Python Editor, only python2.x)
- qtdesigner (qt-pyqt or pyside, included in pyqt. Spyder IDE, build on pyqt, has a dedicated link to it. Works also for python 3.x)
I use PyGTK to interact with GTK.
http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/gtk-class-reference.html
http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/
But there is also QT, and WXpython, that are worthy.
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I always liked BoaConstructor which is a wxPython GUI Builder.
Doesn't seems to be actively maintained any longer though...
wxpython is very active though...
Python Tools is basically just like using VS but with Python. It's got intellisense, debugging, profiling, etc... When working w/ IronPython the .NET debugger is a little rough (you'll see internal implementation details) but you can still use the pure Python debugger which gives you a Pythonic view.
The intellisense engine is aware of the GUI designer so you'll get completions against the controls defined in XAML. And you'll get auto-definition of handler methods when you do things like double click on buttons in the GUI designer or select to define an event handler in the properties pane. Probably the biggest missing thing is that there's no support for user controls and there's also no designer support for WinForms.

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I need to create a simple windows based GUI for a desktop application that will be downloaded by end users. The application is written in python and will be packaged as an installer or executable.
The functionality I need is simple - selecting from various lists, showing progress bars, etc. No animations, sprites, or other taxing/exotic things.
Seems there are quite a few options for Python GUI libraries (Tk, QT, wxPython, Gtk, etc). What do you recommend that:
Is easy to learn and maintain
Can be cleanly packaged using py2exe or something similar
Looks nice
[Update] For what it's worth I ended up going with tkinter. It's fairly well documented, can be made to look nice (mainly, use native fonts), and most importantly ships with Python so there's nothing extra to worry about. wxpython also looked good, but the download was 10M or so, and I didn't want to add that extra weight to the packages I distribute.
tkinter's major advantage (IMHO!) is that it comes with Python (at least on Windows). It looks ugly, and there's no progress bar or something like that (at least not builtin). Being a thin wrapper around Tk, its API doesn't feel very elegant or intuitive. However, there are quite a few good Tkinter resources on the web so learning it is not necessarily a pain.
For any serious GUI attempts, I'd go for wxPython as well. I don't know about packaging, though. But I wouldn't expect any problems.
I've recommended wxPython in the past and it's still an excellent tool. The others always seemed somewhat cumbersome to me.
There's instructions out there on the web which show exactly how to package a wxPython GUI.
The wxAui section in particular can give some really clean / usable results:
The most beautiful one that I can suggest is PyQt (almost native), otherwise a good idea would be using directly IronPython that is native .net code.
Anyway nothing beats tkinter for multi-platformness and packaging-friendliness.
I've used wxPython in the past (For Mac/Windows deployments). It has worked good. And it looks nicer than Tk :)
From using both wxPython and TKinter, I'd say wxPython looks nicer and is easy to learn.
Although you said you are planning on using the program for Windows, it's worth mentioning that I've had problems with TKinter on Mac not working correctly.

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The GuiProgramming page in the Python wiki has a good overview of the different options you have.
The two most interesting toolkits for use with python are probably PyQt4 or wxPython.
They are both open source, cross platform and well documented, and they both have gui builders available (Qt Designer and wxGlade. Keep in mind that developing closed source software with QT requires a license, both for QT and the python bindings.
We started down the path of wxPython a few years ago and found it to be quite easy to do for simple, quick and dirty app. However, you are not going to get something you can put on the modern desktop. So we switched to WinForms and Python.Net and haven't looked back since. It's fairly easy to get going and you get all the power and support of rich windows UI with .NET.
One thing not mentioned yet is that Tkinter is included in the standard library.
In most cases all other gui toolkits will require additional installs.
Tkinter isn't pretty, but it gives you the basics. And if you don't want to worry about additional setup, this is your best choice.
My personal preference is wxpython. It has many of the standard widgets you expect from a gui toolkit and a native look.

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I am quite a heavy user of wxWidgets, partly because of licensing reasons.
How do you see the future of wxWidgets in prospect of the recent announcement of Qt now being released under LGPL?
Do you think wxwidget is still a good technical choice for new projects ? Or would you recommand adopting Qt, because it is going to be a de-facto standard.
I am also interested about the possible implications this will have on their bindings with the most common scripting languages (e.g. PyQt, wxPython, wxRuby). Why PyQt is so under-used when it has a professional grade designer and wxPython not?
Related:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/443546/qt-goes-lgpl-on-windows-is-it-good-enough-to-use-instead-of-mfc
For those of us who are drawn to wxWidgets because it is the cross-platform library that uses native controls for proper look and feel the licensing change of Qt has little to no consequences.
Edit:
Regarding
Qt not having native controls but native drawing functions
let me quote the wxWidgets wiki page comparing toolkits:
Qt doesn't have true native ports like wxWidgets does. What we mean by this is that even though Qt draws them quite realistically, Qt draws its own widgets on each platform. It's worth mentioning though that Qt comes with special styles for Mac OS X and Windows XP and Vista that use native APIs (Appearance Manager on Mac OS X, UxTheme on Windows XP) for drawing standard widget primitives (e.g. scrollbars or buttons) exactly like any native application. Event handling, the resulting visual feedback and widget layout are always implemented by Qt.
I'm currently using pyqt at work and I find myself totally satisfied.
You have better documentation (IMHO), better event managing (signal-slot pattern is somehow more powerful than the old simple-callback style), and importing your custom widget in a graphical designer like qt-designer is far easier.
As far as I can tell qt-designer is more powerful than any wxpython counterpart, like Boa Constructor and pyGlade).
You also have great support for translating program's strings in different languages (better support than wxLocale at least, and you can use a tool like Qt-Linguist which is fully integrated in the qt system).
I'm using wxpython in some hobbistic works, but I'm still a noob there. I think its greater advantage over pyqt is to have a native look&feel on different platforms. This is a huge point if you are developing windows/linux applications, for example. Actually you could use "skins" to obtain a native look&feel with windows-qt applications but I have no idea on how to achieve that (sorry, I've never used qt on windows :D).
Honestly, I don't think that people will massively switch away from WxWidgets.
For python, there are PyQt bindings and WxPython bindings. Despite Qt being much more practical than WxWidgets, the majority of GUI python open source programs are written with WxWidgets. Since those programs are open source, the GPL vs LGPL did not matter that much in their choice of toolkit.
The same goes for Gtk. Many open source applications are written in Gtk, on windows, despite Gtk being very difficult to work with on windows. With Qt, those applications would be a lot easier to maintain on a cross platform basis, but it has not happened.
So, choice of toolkit is influenced by many parameters, licensing being only one of them.
I still don't understand why Qt is not more mainstream, because it's in my opinion the easiest and more practical GUI toolkit ever written.
Please note that, as of Jan 2009, while Qt 4.5 was to be available under LGPL, Riverbank Computing hadn't made any announcement about licensing for future versions of PyQt. PyQt is still only commercial/GPLv2/GPLv3.
As noted in comments for this answer, Nokia announced the LGPL-licensed PySide project in August 2009.
Qt is very comprehensive and high quality framework. I am sure that many new projects that would have used wxWidgets will now use LGPL Qt instead. But projects that are already using wxWidgets will no doubt continue to use wxWidgets rather than doing a massive re-write.
I chose wxPython for 2 main reasons:
Boa Constructor,
which is still a beta product, gives me unified control over 100% of the process, whereas PyQt indeed has better designer, but there's no connection between editing "event handlers".
My ideal IDE designs, creates events, let me edit just the functional code needed, and run; without "compiling UICs", without switching editors, without going into the command line.
While for Large scale applications it matters very little, my current domain is fast and small scale programs.
Licensing...
it doesn't matter right now, but it will once I start vending my stuff on small scale.
autocompletion inside event functional code doesn't seem to work in QTDesigner, for event code. I might be missing something, yet the "broken" process described above prevent it from being a RAD.
I was never able to setup Qt to cross compile. I remember seeing something from Trolltech saying that they don't officially support cross compilation, although I can't find it now.
There are many guides and such detailing how to get Qt to cross compile, so its possible (likely) that I was doing something wrong.
When choosing a framework, I recommend considering and testing out their cross compilation abilities.

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