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I am still kind of new to programming and after playing around with a lot of languages trying to find which one worked best for me I stumbled across python and have been doing really well with it.
The only problem/concern I have is that I do not mainly want to do web development. I want to create desktop apps with nice GUis as well. Unlike most other programming languages that I have dabbled in python doesn't seem to have one definitive ide for this sort of thing which kind of sucks imo, especially since it's such a cool language.
I've searched and found quite a few IDEs that include GUI designers with code editing as well but I can't decide which one to use. Of those I am interested in the following
BlackAdder - http://www.thekompany.com/products/blackadder/
Pythoncard - http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/
Boa Constructor - http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/
SPE - http://pythonide.blogspot.com/
Dabo (is it even an ide?) - http://dabodev.com/
Eric IDE - http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/index.html
Xrope - http://xrope.sourceforge.net/
I am not looking for opinions on which one is the "best" or anyone's favorite. I want to know which one is the most widely used and which one I would be able to find the most documentation on and get the most user support from whether it be via forums, here, community, etc..
P.S. If anyone cares to post any links to some documentation/tutorials with their answer it would be greatly appreciated.
P.P.S. Does anyone know if there are any plans for a larger company maybe thinking of creating a full fledged ide comparable to Delphi, Visual Studio for python in the foreseeable future? Would make things a lot easier IMO.
Thanks..
You can use Visual Studio to build IronPython GUI applications as well: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb165375(v=vs.80).aspx
EDIT: You can now use pytools (http://pytools.codeplex.com/) to develop non-IronPython apps in VisualStudio.
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I am very interested in learning web programming.. I want to use something from python but not sure if I want to use web2py or django.. Django seems difficult to set up for a beginner such as myself.. But I do not want to throw it out just yet.. Soo what are some expert opinions on web programming frameworks? Also, if django really isn't as hard as it seems, could someone please explain how I would set it up. Thanks in advance!!
I'm a beginner also. I started in about 8 months ago knowing no computer science, programming, powershell, or even html/css, and now I just about have a full django website ready, minus some minor issues because I need video and video is still above my head and hard to find info/learn about. Anyway, if you don't already know html/css, I used codecademy.com to learn that and some javascript, then learnpythonthehardway.org to learn python, followed by djangobook.com for django. All are great resources. They even point you in the direction of other things you need along the way. It won't be easy, but there are great learning resources available, and since I myself began learning, codecademy has also added python. I quit my job to focus on programming full time so that I can learn it while chasing a dream, so I know from personal experience that it can be done with the free resources available online. I still don't know A LOT and it will take time for things to start clicking, but if you want to learn it just start. I know you asked for expert opinions, and trust me I'm no expert, but from my experience django wasn't too bad. Yeah, you will find yourself banging your head against the wall from time to time, but communities like stackoverflow can also help you figure out answers to your questions. I don't however have any experience with web2py so I can't speak about that. Good luck!
OK, let me suggest you give a try for both frameworks, test Django, then test web2py. take which you like more. All good frameworks.
For web2py I suggest: http://killer-web-development.com/
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I have been learning online lot of programming stuff these days using online sites like Udacity, Coursera, Khan Academy etc. I see most of them offer understanding of programming, understanding of Web, or several other things through python as a example language. I also learned about google app engine and found python as one of the language other than java that is supported. It is actually surprising that other popular languages or i should say more familiar languages like java, php etc are not finding their place in this category. I am asking this question as i code and understand php and java. But to go thorough these online classes i need to build an understanding of python as well. So i want to understand if learning python and its entire set of features will be useful and what in python inspires online education site as their preferred language.
There are many reasons for why Python is so popular:
It is easy to learn
It has a very clean syntax
It is good for scientific computations
It can do many things, from desktop application to web programming
It is available on most *nix systems by default
It is available on many operating systems (Linux, Mac OS, Windows, ...)
It can be used together with C.
This list can go on and on ... .
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Closed 12 years ago.
I have always wondered about this and seen this among lots of programmers. Why is a VB programmer or VB code easily dismissed as too noobish and easy while the same does not apply to Python or Python code? After all, isn't Python as easy as VB is? And it does provide drag-n-drop GUI application building also. So why is it that VB is flamed and yet Python is not?
I am just wondering out of curiosity.
VB is flamed less for being easy than for the population of programmers who use it. VB is perceived as being for people one step up from writing Excel macros, often in in-house corporate environments, churning out crapware. Being a Microsoft product doesn't help.
VB is also seen as being the low-end language in the Microsoft ecosystem, with an ad-hoc design.
Python, on the other hand is open source, and cool because it is used in scientific applications, web startups, etc.
I'm not defending these positions, just giving you the perspective I've seen. As others have said, language wars are usually pointless. Occasionally you'll get a discussion that will truly touch on interesting differences between languages, but usually not.
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Closed 10 years ago.
I'm not sure what it is about me but I seem to learn and retain information better through a classroom setting where what's being shown is explained clearly and easy to understand examples are presented. I rarely do my own reading or research, but I do occasionally stumble upon some neat things. Maybe I'm just used to the classroom setting from all the years of the education process or it could just be the lazy man in me.
In any case, if anyone could recommend some video tutorial sites, particularly for beginners, that would be great.
I am particularly interested in the following...
Web 2.0 (AJAX, XML, DHTML, Javascript, CSS, etc)
Python
Of course, if anyone knows some sort of wide-range, general site for tutorials of all kinds to help programmers out there, that would be great too.
Thank you.
PS - For the purposes of my software development needs I've decided to give Eclipse a try as it seems to be one of the most widely used IDEs in the industry.
MIT has a great Intro to Computer Science course using Python.
MIT 6.00 Introduction to Computer Science and Programming
For Django (Python MVC framework) try here
For CSS try here
For jQuery try here
For DHTML try here
My advice don't go for eclipse if oyu are beginner use a texteditor. Eclispes features can be overwhelming for beginners.
ajaxprojects, learning python through videos, python link on showmedo, a video tutorial site where you can find many other topics being covered as well.
http://pycon.blip.tv/
ShowMeDo(Python) has plenty of screenscasts for the whole gamut of experience levels.
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I am currently evaluating for an eCommerce project. Is there any good Python based webshop software. Are there any personal experiences people can share?
Until now I have only found:
http://www.satchmoproject.com/
Coming from the PHP world finding only ONE project seams akward to me.
Does anybody have experience with Satchmo?
Are there any good commercial solutions? It's highly important that the webshop software is extendable (and if possible readable/changeable) in every aspect, but it's not required at all to be OSS. Commercial software with support deal is fair enough.
Any good recommendations out there?
I also found:
Plata (companion to the great FeinCMS)
Django-Shopkit
Django Shop
Satchless
Cartridge (coupled with Mezzanine CMS)
Oscar
I didn’t try any, was just looking for the right starting point myself (Oscar seems to be the only one that supports split payments, so I guess I'll use that).
See also http://www.readncode.com/blog/the-state-of-ecommerce-in-django/
Satchmo is a great project, mature, and used in live ecommerce sites.
The other up-and-coming Django ecommerce app that looks like it will be strong competition for Satchmo is Lightning Fast Shop. I haven't used it, but I've looked over the code a few times and like its style.
Satchmo is pretty good. I've used an older version, which lacked some of the built-in customisability of the more recent versions, but even so it was pretty easy to customise.
Don't forget that the one big advantage of OSS software is that even if the app itself doesn't expose a way to customise a particular bit of functionality, you've got the code right there so you can dive right in and change it.