I found this python plugin list but thought I'd ask if anyone has any experience with anything listed there?
I'm totally new to both python and dynamic programming languages if that makes any difference.
PyDev is the most widely used IDE I think. I'm using it not very often, but if I do, it suits me quite well.
PyDev is the best I've used. I use it every day. When they had a pay version I paid for it. I use it on my Mac and Linux box and love it.
I'm using PyDev. It's come a long way since I started using it. That might be it's greatest strength, it's very actively developed. It's got good support for Django and a whole list of other worthwhile features. If you're an Eclipse user you should definitely try it out.
If you're used to Eclipse, it's probably best to go with the DLTK. As a bonus, you get support for a number of other languages (Tcl, Ruby, Javascript) too.
Pydev supports python including vs 3.1, jython and ironpython. It is said that ironpython support in pydev is one of the best availables.
So pydev is probably the best plugin for eclipse. Some few months ago pydev and pydev extensions, the non-free part of pydev, were merged and released free. This is not related with abandonware, contrarily pydev is being actively developped.
Last release added support for Django (and there was also support for google application engine).
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I really loved this feature when I used Eclipse for Java programming, but I can't find the same functionality for a Python editor. IDLE and Pyscripter are nice, but they don't help in this area.
Basically, I just want the option to collapse or otherwise hide functions that I don't feel like looking at for a while. Know of anything like this?
In addition to the aforementioned (great) editors, you might want to give PyDev a shot as well.
Geany can do this.
Notepad++ has this feature.
Komodo Edit IDE, for Windows, Mac and Linux, for Python, PHP, Ruby, JavaScript, Perl and Web Dev.
I've used Komodo Edit and Notepad++ in the past but my current preference is Sublime Text Edit 2.
Although not free (and actually quite expensive), it can be used in free mode with only an occasional reminder and no other restrictions.
It is actually written in Python so you get a Python console built in - you can also get other consoles such as JavaScript. It is VERY flexible & has some very good features. It is also has an excellent community with loads of very useful plugins.
It is much lighter on resource usage than Komodo, can use Textmate bundles directly (so gets loads of formatting options for different file types). It is cross-platform and doesn't even need installation on Windows.
Pycharm CE, from Jet Brains, indeed, wonderful. Functions and comments collapse is ready out of the box, as well as edit helpers. Project files and assets organization, integrated python console, powerful debugging tools,... Then, lots of plugins: git integration, tinycode view, extra languages' helpers and highlighters,.... anything you need when coding, but simple and easy to use. There's a Pro (paid) version for those who want even more.
https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download
(This question is more than 10 years old. I got surprised, nobody answered about Pycharm before...)
Is there a way to integrate standard Python documentation into Eclipse? So it will be possible to press F1 on an API function and get its description in the Help view of Eclipse.
I use PyDev.
Thanks.
I've had the same problem, so I kinda made an Eclipse plugin for that purpose.
Or download from Sourceforge
PyDev, nor Eclipse, does not provide integrated on-line help for the Python documentation. Unlike with Java, Python API source code documenting has several competing documentation standards and implementing support for them would be difficult.
However if the function under the cursor can be resolved its docstring is shown in a pop-up note.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257/
Also because Python is dynamic language, as opposite to static languages like Java, you rarely can resolve functions to their source in code development time.
Using Python console debugger you can use the help() command when the application is being run
>>> help(obj.myfuction)
None that I know of, but that would be very useful in pydev. You should suggest it in the eclipse pydev forum ,or code it yourself! If I was still a CS student I'd help..
Zeal - https://zealdocs.org/
Although I do not see how to integrate it in Eclipse, it is pretty useful next to it on your desktop. And it is not only Python docs, but may more. A real life saving stuff this Zeal docs!
Just a footnote: I do not use Eclipse that much as I switched to PyCharm and Jupyther.
I know this is probably a question that is asked a ton on here but I haven't been able to find exactly what I'm looking for. I'm a JAVA developer that is learning Python and Django and I'm looking for a good development environment. I would like to be able to edit python code, css, html and javascript all in the same editor if possible. I have been trying out both Komodo and pydev. I like Komodo so far. Being a JAVA developer I am very comfortable in Eclipse but it just doesn't feel like it might be the right environment to be doing Python development in. I was wondering if anyone had good recommendations. I also have heard about CODA, TextMate and SubEthaEdit. I should mention that I'm doing my development work on Mac. I know these things are really opinionated but didn't know if there was some kind of "industry" standard for Python/Django development on the Mac.
I have done the normal searches on stackoverflow and looked through this post as well What IDE to use for Python?. I just haven't found an answer that seemed to fit my situation......
If your familiar with eclipse, by all means try Pydev first. I was the opposite, I was/am a Python developer who switched to Java. There was no real difference between using Eclipse for Java and Eclipse for Python (Pydev), you still get inline docs, debugging, code completion, the whole bit. You also get a lot of great stuff along with it like subversive, mylyn, aptana, etc.
As you're familiar with Eclipse, Pydev is a good choice.
Komodo is the only IDE/Editor I know which supports Django Template Language syntax highlighting. But it's really so rudimentary that I think you can live without it.
A lot of Mac developers use TextMate because it has a lot of creature features.
If you're working with big files and need speed, look at BBEdit - it's amazing how fast it can find/replace stuff.
If you want an editor that is close to Eclipse, but not a full-blown Java-based/oriented IDE, Komodo Edit (open source) or IDE (commercial) is pretty good, though I can usually get it to crash within an hour. I think it doesn't like me.
My primary editor is vim or gvim, depending on what hosting system I am on. It handles every language, runs on Mac, Linux and Windows, and is very customizable and, when you're used to it, can be very fast. I spend 99% of my editing time in gvim and it's the first or second thing I install on a machine, along with my customized setup and favorite fonts and plugins.
I'm on OSX and I've recently tried out http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/ and it looks pretty good, but I can't quite get comfy with it -- but if you're familiar with Eclipse, then you might like it.
Personally, I find that I'm plenty productive with TextMate and a few of the Textmate Python/Django bundles
I think you should give Geany a try. Its very easy to use and is definitely one of my most favorite IDE's I have ever used.
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I'm looking to set up my development environment at home for writing Windows applications in Python.
For my first piece, I'm writing a simple, forms-based application that stores data input as XML (and can read that information back.) I do want to set up the tools I'd use professionally, though, having already done a round of didactic programming.
What tools are professional python developers using these days? In order to have a working python environment, what version of the compiler should I be using? What editor is common for professionals? What libraries are considered a must-have for every serious python developer?
Specifically, which Windowing and XML libraries are de rigeur for working in Windows?
I like Eclipse + PyDev (with extensions).
It is available on Windows, and it works very well well. However, there are many other IDEs, with strengths and weakness.
As for the interpreter (Python is interpreted, not compiled!), you have three main choices: CPython, IronPython and Jython.
When people say "Python" they usually refer to "CPython" that is the reference implementation, but the other two (based, respectively, on .Net and Java) are full pythons as well :-)
In your case, I would maybe go on IronPython, because it will allow you to leverage your knowledge of .Net to build the GUI and treating the XML, while leaving the implementation of business logic to Python.
Finally, should you decide to use CPython, finally, there are several choices for working with xml:
minidom; included in the standard library
lxml, faster and with a better API; it means an additional installation on top of Python.
Lots of questions, most hard to answer correctly. First of all, most of python development happens on unix-like platforms. You will hit many walls during development on Windows box.
Python is not a compiled lanugage, current preferred version for production is 2.5. For environement setup you should take a look at virtualenv. Editor is a personal choice, many Python developers use Vim, you can customize it pretty well to suite your needs.
About libraries, Python is very strong around this area and it's really hard to say what is a must to know. If you want to handle XML, I would preffer lxml.
If you go for CPython, make sure you get the win32 extensions by Mark Hammond, either as a separate download which you install on top of the vanilla Python installation, or as part of ActiveState's ActivePython. It includes an integrated editor and debugger.
Jython has recently reached 2.5 compliancy, but we quickly ran into recursion limit issues.
The standard distribution includes IDLE, a graphical editor and debugger.
I like shells, so I'm using IPython for interactive work, and pydb as debugger (unfortunately, I had problems getting pydb to work under Windows).
"What tools are professional python developers using these days?"
Lots
"In order to have a working python environment, what version of the compiler should I be using?"
["compiler" is meaningless. I'll assume you mean "Python"]
We use 2.5.4. We'll be upgrading to 2.6 as soon as we've done the testing.
"What editor is common for professionals?"
We use Komodo Edit.
"What libraries are considered a must-have for every serious python developer?"
We use Django, XLRD, PIL, and a few others. We don't plan this kind of thing in advance. As our requirements arrive, we start looking for libraries. We don't "pre-load" a bunch of "must-have" libraries. The very idea is silly. We load what we need to solve the problems we have.
There are no set standards in these matters, and for good reasons:
there is a fair amount of good choice
different people are productive with different tools
different tools and libraries are suited for solving different problems
That said, I think it's a valid question exactly because there is a fair amount of good choice. When there is too much choice people often do not chose at all and move on. You still need to do your own research to decide what is best for you but you may find here some good starting points.
Here is what I use professionally on windows:
python 2.5.4
latest wxPython
XRC Resource Editor from the wxPython docs & demos for the grunt of the tedious GUI design
lxml or gnosis utils for xml
WingIDE Professional
Taking the headline question literally, the answer has to be IronPython. The 2.0 releases are equivalent to CPython 2.5, and the 2.6 release (currently at beta2) is intended to match CPython 2.6 (full 2.6 release some time in the next couple of months). With either you can use the state of the art in Windows GUI frameworks, i.e. WPF; and you get the whole .net XML support libraries (excepting Linq to XML, which relies on clever bits of C# that IronPython cannot yet emulate).
I've used NetBeans Python plug-in happily as an IDE for IronPython using WPF.
The answer would depend on what you want to do with Python. If you want to do web programming, Python is blessed with many web frameworks. The most popular ones are: Django, Pylons, and Turbogears. There's also Google App Engine, where you can deploy your Python webapp (based on GAE framework) to Google's infrastructure. If you want to do Desktop programming then there is PyQT and TkInter, or you can even try using Java Swing with Jython. And if you want to do Mobile app programming then there is Python for S60 which is backed by Nokia.
Python is interpreted language, so there is no compiler (although the interpreter also compiles your python module into bytecode). I would recommend using Python 2.6 as it has some syntax and libraries that is different compared to 2.5. You can also start learning Python 3.0 too.
There is several IDE that is good for Python. You don't have to get yourself attached into one editor/IDE because most of them are good ones. For the commercial ones there is WingIDE which is really focus on making IDE for Python and I would really recommend IntelliJ IDEA with Python plugin which is really nice if you often look at the libraries in your Python environment. For the free ones (as others have said) there is Komodo Edit or you can also try Netbeans with Python plugin.
As for the must-have libraries, this is depending on what you want to do. What kind of application you want to develop with Python. But I think every Python developer should consider PIL for imaging library. I also use simplejson quite often, because I prefer using JSON rather than XML. If you are using XML though, you can use lxml as it is really fast in parsing XML.
Has anyone tried the NetBeans 6.5 Python IDE?
What are your opinions? Is it better/worse than PyDev? Do you like it? How does it integrate with source control tools (especially Mercurial)?
I will share some of the feelings from using it for quite a while now. Things that are roughly the same quality as in Eclipse+Pydev+mercurial:
editor, code-completion
debugger features
Things that are better:
autoimport
color schemes (Norway today rocks)
Mercurial support (though it is getting better and better in Eclipse)
Things that are worse:
zipped egg packages are not recognized for either code completion or the autoimport
libdyn packages (e.g. datetime) are not recognized
debugger is having trouble with multiprocessing package
you cannot choose file from outside of the project (/usr/bin/paster) to be the main file (this is what I use to debug Pylons applications)
Does anyone have something to add to the list?
BraveSirFoobar, it would be nice to know more about what problems you found -- the very, very slow part, as well as the crash. The first time you run the IDE it will index information about your Python platform and project and libraries - such that it can do quick code completion, go to declaration etc. later - but once that's done it's not supposed to be slow - but there might be bugs.
Mercurial should definitely be supported well, since the NetBeans project itself (and Solaris and Java) are all hosted in Mercurial repositories.
We plan to have really deep support for Python, much in the style of our Ruby support. One of the things which really helped in our Ruby work was the feedback from our early adopters, so if you try Python and have issues with it, please let us know so we can fix it. (Feedback links here: http://wiki.netbeans.org/Python )
-- Tor
Compared to pydev, I found it very, very slow, and it crashed (once) when I created a project from existing sources. It's still beta, though.
Integration with SCMs will be as good as netbeans is already (I only tried subversion, which worked fine).
Feature-wise it was about the same : refactor, debugging, code assist... I'll stick with pydev for the moment, which is IMHO a great tool.
Sun use Mercurial internally now, so expect that their IDE support for it will be top notch.
Having worked with PyDev and PyDev extension for Eclipse for the past few months, the move to NetBeans has been a very pleasurable one.
Without having to hunt all the different plug-ins for PyDev and Eclipse, NetBeans had everything I needed out of the box:
auto completion, super fast index search, style control import control, you name it.
And it seemed LESS bug prone than Eclipse (which is pretty stable).
Also, the built-in Vim like auto code snippets it uses are just fantastic.
IMO, it beats Eclipse hands down.
I'm hooked.
I started using it a little while back and I like it. I usually develop in a simple editor (SciTE), NetBeans is nice to organize larger projects.
wrote about it briefly here
How does it compare with PyDev Extensions? I've recently installed it and, to be honest, couldn't imagine myself going back to PyDev.
NetBeans seems interesting though, if only I wasn't already hooked onto a couple of other Eclipse plug-ins as well.
After looking at this, I decided to go ahead with PyDev than NetBeans.
However best wishes to NetBeans team for a faster and better Python support. Cant wait for that :)